On a Wahabi [Pseudo Salafi] forum two Wahabis engaged in a discussion.
The first Wahabi ( salafi)says:
Yes, it is rationally possible for Allah to do wrong, , or dhulm, be it in the form of lying, or anything else. However, as the Prophet SAW said of Allah in Hadeeth Qudsi, ‘I have forbidden oppression on myself’. He could only forbid oppression if it was possible for Him to commit. Likewise, Allah never lies, even though He could if he wanted to.
The second Wahabi (Deobandi) was very happy to see the above comment. He gets excited and says:
Back to the lecture, it is just a rehash of Barelwi polemics that which has been replied to many times. Rather because of this, Molana Khaleel Ahmed Sahanfuri wrote his famous work ‘muhannad ala mufannad’. In which this issue of imkaanul kidhb is discussed. So this is nothing new and is a feud much bigger then as suffah institute.
The first Wahabi ( Salafi) adds and says:
Well, Allah is all able to do anything, be it good or bad, is He not?
If you say, No, you have attributed inability to Allah.
If you say Yes, then we agree and further state, as Allah stated about Himself that He has made oppression forbidden on Himself.
What’s so complicated about it?
When a person fasts, does he lose his ability to eat? No. If he wants, he can eat anytime he wants and break his fast, incurring Allah’s anger. But he willfully doesn’t do that to seek Allah’s pleasure, despite having the ability – walillah al-mathal al-a’la… Allah has the highest example.
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Before we discuss the hadith of Sahih Muslim which the Wahabi brings as an evidence for his ugly belief it is important for the readers to know that Wahabi scholar Khaleel Ambethavi said :
Since human beings can lie , so Allah must have power to lie!Allah has power to steal ,drink ( sharab khori), ignorant ( juhal) and attrocity ( zulm), otherwise human beings will have more things under their power than Allah.
[Tazkirat al Khaleel, p.146, by Aashiq Ilahi merathi]
See scans here
www.falaah.co.uk/wahabi/debate-at-bhawalpur/
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The hadith of Sahih Muslim
Abu Dharr reported Allah’s Messenger (sal allahu alayhi wa sallam ) as saying that Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said: My servants, I have made oppression unlawful for Me and unlawful for you, so do not commit oppression against one another…… [A lengthy hadith]
To this, the Wahabi [ salafi] says:
He could only forbid oppression if it was possible for Him to commit. Likewise, Allah never lies, even though He could if he wanted to.
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The great Ashari scholar, Imam Abu ‘Abdullah Muhammad ibn ‘Ali al- Mazari al -Maliki [Rh] d. 536 AH/1141C.E wrote a Sharah of Sahih Muslim with the name Al Mulim bi Fawaid Muslim.
Under this hadith he writes : “the meaning of Allah’s words:” I have made injustice forbidden to myself” shows that his being the most holy ,the most high, makes Allah above to do injustice, so it is impossible[mustahil] that injustice comes from Allah, the Ever-Exalted and Glorified… Allah is free from oppression ( zulm), because oppression means to cross the set limit and Allah is not bounded by any limits….[ Dar al Kutub al ilmiya , Beirut]
Another great Maliki scholar, the hafidh of the hadith during his time, Imam Muhammad b. Khalfa b. `Umar al-Abi al-Washtani al-Maliki ( Rh) [ died.827 AH/1424 CE) wrote a sharah of Sahih Muslim with the name Ikmal al Kamal al Muallim.
Under this hadith he writes: “Imam Mazari has said that it means AllaH is free from oppression (dhulm) because oppression means to cross the set limit and there is no one who can set a limit for AllaH so that if Allah crosses this limit , then , AllaH forbid , He will be called an oppressor [ Zalim]. Others [ Mutazilites ] said that zulm ( oppression) is a flaw and a defect and every defect and flaw is Muhaal ( impossible) for AllaH [Dar al Kutub al ilmiya , Beirut]
Please note: Same explanation is also given by Shaykh Allama Ghulam Rasul Saeedi in his Sharah of Sahih Muslim.
But how can these Wahabis accept the ruling and explanation from these great scholars? As per them ,Imam Nawawi (Rh), Imam Ibn Hajar Rh) did not have sound aqida in matters of sifat of AllaH.!!
If Wahabis are so interested in literal meaning, then in the same hadith we have,
[..]O My servants, even if the first amongst you and the last amongst you and the whole human race of yours and that of jinns also all stand in one plain ground and you ask Me and I confer upon every person what he asks for, it would not. in any way, cause any loss to Me (even less) than that which is caused to the ocean by dipping the needle in it[..]
We know ocean has limited resources, where as there is no limit to resources and mercy of AllaH , who is free from every defect.
More ,Insha Allah, if required, later.
Abdullah al hasani , Chishti Sabri
11 Jamadi Al Thani 1432 Hijri
15 May 2011